Professor kills 3

[MoeMoe]

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/02/14/professor-accused-in-shootings-was-suspect-in-bomb-plot/19358072/

seems this woman has a few issues in her past......

[cjb]

Police say the gun Bishop's accused of using in the Alabama shooting wasn't registered, and investigators don't know how or where she got it.

hmmmm another example of criminals not obeying laws. Who would have thought this could happen?

[Chutney Daftcraft]

Did she at least kill the people who were responsible for the decision to not give her tenure?

[cheerios]

I hope she rots in hell.

[AAT53]

A few family members of victims are asking how she got hired considering her past. How was the school supposed to know? She was never charged or convicted of anything.

The shooting of her brother was either an accident or a cover-up. The bombs were something she and her husband (and a bunch of other people) were questioned about.

[Chutney Daftcraft]

I desperately need to know if she at least killed the people who she felt screwed her over.

I'ma look into it this afternoon...

[Leprechaun]

There's another angle going on here ... a 'sense of entitlement' and the old 'a job for life can't be fired' metanlity doncha think? Wouldn't we all want a nice cushy job-for-life? I say let's get rid of the whole tenure ideal and let a bunch of teachers and professors compete for teaching positions! Should bring down the cost of tuition.

[MoeMoe]

I desperately need to know if she at least killed the people who she felt screwed her over.

I'ma look into it this afternoon... did you find out? I wondered myself. I just read from someone that was in the room, ...there were 12 people at an oval table, she suddenly got up, and shot the people next to her, 6 in a row, in the head, the others ducked under the table, she pointed the gun at a 7th woman and the gun jammed, the woman rushed her, and the others then did the same, shoving her out the door. This person did not mention what they were discussing or any more details.....

[Nanuk]

What does it matter if she shot the people that she blamed for her own problems? Is that supposed to somehow excuse her actions? I hope that she gets convicted and is sentenced to death. I look forward to lighting a candle on the night of her execution and then at the proper moment, smiling and snuffing it out.

By the way, it's notable that her ties to Congressman Delahunt--the one who dismissed the charges against her when she fired three rounds at or into her brother--are being downplayed right along with her penchant for socialism. It's like we mustn't talk bad about Harvard-educated socialists (even though they always cause problems for America) but you can bet that if she'd ever attended even one TEA Party, we'd still be hearing about that with fifteen-minute breaking news updates.

[MountainMoon22]

There's another angle going on here ... a 'sense of entitlement' and the old 'a job for life can't be fired' metanlity doncha think? Wouldn't we all want a nice cushy job-for-life? I say let's get rid of the whole tenure ideal and let a bunch of teachers and professors compete for teaching positions! Should bring down the cost of tuition.


The tenure thing has always puzzled me, it just makes it harder to get rid of someone who's not doing their job; also, I think it involves a substantial pay raise. When I worked in the English Department 10 years ago or so at a good state university in a small town, a normal professor made around 60, a tenured professor made around 90, (I helped with payroll). It's the brass ring in the Department, highly political, usually corrupt, not always given to the best or most deserving - just like any job promotion, really. Academians have often never worked in the real world though.

Also, they are not the most stable of people. When I was in graduate school, I was in the hallway when one professor threw a chair into another one's office duing a screaming match. Another woman tried to stab a fellow graduate student over a disagreement in a paper. Nothing happened to either of these people in terms of punishment/retribution. They might have been passing her over for years because she's nuts, yet keeping her on because they can't find a better candidate with whom to replace her, especially in Alabama, where I'd imagine your biotech PhD's are scarce.

[Chutney Daftcraft]

What does it matter if she shot the people that she blamed for her own problems? Is that supposed to somehow excuse her actions? I hope that she gets convicted and is sentenced to death. I look forward to lighting a candle on the night of her execution and then at the proper moment, smiling and snuffing it out.

I'm pretty sure you've misunderstood my motive for asking. I'm disconnected from this situation, so I have no investment in it. I just read these 'shooter' stories all the time, and a common theme I have noticed, is that the shooter almost never gets the person or people responsible for what led them to snap in the first place, making that behavior even more pointless than it already is. NOBODY is ever going to sympathize with a cold-blooded murderer...

By the way, that last sentence about the candle, says more about you than it does about her...


By the way, it's notable that her ties to Congressman Delahunt--the one who dismissed the charges against her when she fired three rounds at or into her brother--are being downplayed right along with her penchant for socialism. It's like we mustn't talk bad about Harvard-educated socialists (even though they always cause problems for America) but you can bet that if she'd ever attended even one TEA Party, we'd still be hearing about that with fifteen-minute breaking news updates.

A [seemingly unstable] college professor goes on a rampage, kills some people, and injures some more... And you've miraculously found a way to make it a left/right issue. I've decided to keep my opinion of that behavior to myself at this time.

[Nanuk]

And you're predictably managed to make it about me and your self-proclaimed "superior" status again.:rolleyes:

[Chutney Daftcraft]

And you're predictably managed to make it about me and your self-proclaimed "superior" status again.:rolleyes:

If you believe that a lack of smiling about execution and a lack of polarizing a tragedy and turning it into a cheap argument makes me 'superior' to you, then, well, those are your words, and not mine. :D

But I already know that I'm no better than anyone else, whether you feel that way or not. I'm actually sorry you feel that way, that was never my intent. I had no idea that when I point out how ridiculous I think the things you say are, that you perceive that as me trying to elevate myself above you and assign titles to myself that I'm not interested in holding.

For that, I am sorry.

[Nanuk]

Chutney, you use the pronoun "I" more than anyone except possibly Obama. Seriosuly, these threads are not all about you, your feelings, self-image, impressions of the other posters, etc. They are about the actual topics. If you can't discuss the TOPICS then perhaps you should not reflexively hit "reply" every time someone starts or comments on one.

[MountainMoon22]

She did shoot her Department Chair.

[Chutney Daftcraft]

Chutney, you use the pronoun "I" more than anyone except possibly Obama. Seriosuly, these threads are not all about you, your feelings, self-image, impressions of the other posters, etc. They are about the actual topics. If you can't discuss the TOPICS then perhaps you should not reflexively hit "reply" every time someone starts or comments on one.

I have learned recently that the high road has guard rails...

[Chutney Daftcraft]

She did shoot her Department Chair.

Thank you for that! The curiosity was killing my cat.