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Willis
02-05-2011, 01:26 PM
With no room to put snow, Eastern waterways beckon
Imagine the East Coast's largest cities mixing a brew of salt, motor oil, trash and grocery carts and dumping it into rivers and harbors.

By JAY LINDSAY, Associated Press Jay Lindsay, Associated Press – Fri Feb 4

BOSTON – Imagine the East Coast's largest cities mixing a brew of salt, motor oil, trash and grocery carts and dumping it into rivers and harbors.

It's allowed in emergency situations, and some officials staring at massive snow mountains in densely populated areas of the winter-walloped Northeast say that time is now, even as others warn dumping snow in water comes with big problems.

"There's a lot of stuff in this snow that if I isolated it and threw it in the river, you'd have me arrested," said John Lipscomb of the New York-based environmental group Riverkeeper.

Snow from the East Coast's insistent winter is being plowed into banks that are narrowing roads and highway ramps like hardening arteries, blocking drivers' sight lines, and forcing schoolchildren to break paths like cattle as they walk down buried sidewalks. In a normal winter, the snow melts on a good day or is carted off to designated dumps where it eventually filters its pollutants through the earth or is treated before ending up in sewers.

This is not a normal winter. Many East Coast cities, including Boston, Hartford, Conn., and New York are on their way to setting seasonal snowfall records, and the extra snow means extra road salt and human refuse that gets swept up by plows.
See the article HERE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110204/ap_on_re_us/us_winter_weather_dumping_snow)
I suppose if the source of drinking water isn't affected (as with dumping into a bay or ocean, then the direct impact on us human beans isn't critical. But we don't have to wonder what effect it has on the beasties who live in or feed from the waters. I do wonder where Jefferson County's snow goes after heavy accumulations:asking07:

Kensey
02-05-2011, 02:43 PM
There was a news story about this issue in a town further north:

Lawrence DPW workers suspended for dumping snow in river (http://www.eagletribune.com/latestnews/x1599338762/Lawrence-DPW-workers-suspended-for-dumping-snow-in-river)


Plowed snow is often contaminated with salt, sand, trash and oil. Dumping that snow into the Merrimack River, a major drinking water source in the area, poses environmental hazards.

Several years ago Baltimore had to truck away snow from their roads, so they piled it on a vacant lot in the middle of the city. That didn't work out so well:

Snow Blind: City Dumps Dangerous Piles of Snow Next to Residential Co-op (http://www2.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=4709)


The high drifts are pocked with hollows hidden from view, and neighborhood residents are concerned that they will attract criminal activity. Already, an abandoned and possibly stolen car has been spotted in the drifts. But the residents are especially worried about the safety of neighborhood children, as there is no fence to keep them off the piles. "You know how kids are," Robinson says. "They will get up there and start playing up on top of those mounds. Somebody could get hurt."

Last year they apparently dumped it all in the Inner Harbor.

LFE
02-06-2011, 05:56 PM
Baltimore melted at least some of it in a huge machine allowing the run off to go into inner harbor:
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/snow-dragon-melts-snow-in-baltimore-021810

They used to just dump all if it into rivers years ago....
now they try to stock pile it in parking lots and feilds by rivers allowing it to leak back in at a slower rate (just when you thought all those brownstone properties were going to waste)

derricksonb
02-15-2011, 03:08 PM
There has to be a give and take when it comes to snow removal and these hippie protesters need a good dose of reality. In large metropolitan seafront areas like Boston and NYC where else are they going to move 2 feet of snow and dispose of it? It's not like they have huge open quarries that can accomodate that volume of frozen material. This type of BS makes me so angry I want to punch kittens, kick puppies and club baby seals while wearing an albino mink jacket, baby gatorskin shoes and a sharkskin wifebeater.

Chutney Daftcraft
02-15-2011, 04:24 PM
Twearing an albino mink jacket

I swear, if you do this, I will throw lead-based paint all over you.

longleaf
02-15-2011, 06:28 PM
Couldn't they donate it to charity?

One of my favorites is Nanuk's Snow Factory, where underprivileged youths from warmer climes are provided an opportunity to live out their dreams of playing in the snow, building snowmen (which they later get to shoot!), sledding and engaging in snowball fights, all on his modest property in the hilly geography that is Harpers Ferry, WV.

LFE
02-15-2011, 08:23 PM
Ice bars man... (http://www.google.com/images?q=ice+bar&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=6CZbTbvpD8H6lwfD9P3PDA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEMQsAQwAg&biw=1440&bih=677)