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Tony
07-13-2007, 11:05 AM
http://www.journal-news.net/news/articles.asp?articleID=10606

CHARLES TOWN — Jefferson County commissioners ended up tabling a motion to deny the Old Standard Quarry project’s rezoning petition for one week after arguing Thursday (7/12/07) over whether the decision needed more time.

Commissioners recently agreed that the complex commercial project needed more work sessions with the project developers, county planning staff and interested parties. However, three commissioners changed their minds Thursday and wanted to go ahead and vote immediately on whether to change the property’s zoning. A vote for rezoning would allow developers to build 2 million square feet of upscale commercial space at the site, which is south of U.S. 340 along Millville Road.

“I said we need more time; I’ve completely changed my mind about that,” said Commissioner Rusty Morgan, adding that he has given the rezoning petition a great deal of consideration in recent weeks.

“We all take these issues very, very seriously,” he said, pointing out that the proposed hotel and office spaces at the quarry site would be valuable to the community. However, Morgan said he couldn’t go along with the project because of its large scale, and its location in a sensitive, historic area adjacent to Harpers Ferry National Historical Park.

Also, he said there is no guarantee that companies would come in and create jobs there, although developers anticipate that 6,000 new jobs and $4.4 million in tax revenues would be generated if the commercial plans were approved.

Rusty Morgan, President Frances Morgan and Commissioner Jim Surkamp wanted to vote Thursday, while commissioners Dale Manuel and Greg Corliss wanted to continue gathering more information.

Manuel pointed out that the minutes of the last meeting show that commissioners agreed that there was a need for another work session.

“I don’t know why we had to rush,” he said. “Why not spend a little time on this?”

Manuel also said he would have liked to have the opportunity to gather more information from the county’s planning staff, developers and everyone concerned about the project in order to look into a compromise. He said he strongly supports the development because it would bring much-needed economic development into the county and “jobs for our sons and daughters.”

Corliss also said he supports the project and can’t understand why the other commissioners were opposed to gathering more information about conditions and restrictions that could be placed on the development.

Frances Morgan said she is sure that all board members have spent a lot of time thinking about the issues, and she wanted to move forward. She did not say specifically on Thursday whether she would vote for or against the petition to rezone, although she has implied that she is not in favor of it.

She said the issue is simply whether to rezone the property and allow for commercial uses; her opinion is that the developers’ plans and possible conditional uses distract from the main issue.

The quarry property consists of about 411 acres that are zoned for rural and high-density residential uses, and developers submitted a petition to rezone the property to allow for commercial uses on April 17.

After Surkamp made a motion to reject the rezoning petition and Rusty Morgan seconded, the commission’s legal counsel cautioned against voting during Thursday’s meeting.

Assistant prosecuting attorney James Casimiro said the meeting agenda should clearly state that the commission intends to vote on the rezoning petition before the board members can do so. Thursday’s agenda showed that the commission intended to reschedule the vote or determine further proceedings in the quarry matter.

The commission voted 4-1 to table the motion, with Corliss voting against it. Then the commission voted 3-2 to place the rezoning decision on next week’s meeting agenda, with Corliss and Manuel voting against the motion.

Leaders from Bolivar and Harpers Ferry expressed their opposition to the project during Thursday’s meeting, and strongly encouraged the County Commission to reject the petition. They said they were worried about increased traffic congestion along U.S. 340, as well as effects the commercial buildings could have on the viewshed from nearby park property and historic Civil War sites.

Those who support the project, including the Jefferson County Economic Development Authority and local business leaders, say Jefferson County desperately needs more commercial development and the jobs that would come with it.

Herb Jonkers, one of the property’s developers, said that if the commission decides to deny the rezoning petition, that doesn’t mean development will be permanently prevented.

“It’s not a yes-or-no vote, it’s a this-or-that vote,” Jonkers said, explaining that the commercial project might not be allowed, but about 1,600 residential units can be built on one section of the property under current zoning. Plus, he said industrial uses are also available on the land, according to state laws.

“We’ll see what happens,” he said.

KatherineA
07-13-2007, 11:06 AM
Just what we need 1,600 empty mcmansions .......

Was that a threat by Mr. Jonkers???

John
07-13-2007, 11:14 AM
Probably. Threats have been a part of this project all along.

Starbuck
07-13-2007, 11:19 AM
You know, I took a wrong turn out of INOVA Loudoun last night and made my way through Landsdowne. As I attempted to differentiate one McMansion from another due to the close proximity with which they were built, the only thought that came into my mind was Why? Yes, you have a beautiful house, but WHY would you pay an insane amount of money for it in an area where you can spit on your neighbor's house? Your neighbor whom you've probably never met to whom you've never spoken? WHY would the residents of WV, who are by far friendlier than anywhere else I've been, want to import this kind of mentality?

I know people may have their opinion of Mt folks...we're rednecks, lawless drunks and speeders, or worse, but I KNOW if I need something, I can either ask my neighbors (who I talk to regularly) or this board (when I haven't even MET all of you F2F), and I will very likely get what I need. I would rather live here in my small 3BR house than in one of those cavernous places where I don't know my neighbors any day.

Plus I'm much more environmentally friendly in my small house, which by its nature of being smaller, is more energy efficient. :cool:

June
07-13-2007, 11:31 AM
Totally agree, Starbuck. You can barely get a lawnmower between those houses. They have look-alikes in Leesburg too.

And while we're on the quarry subject I have to ask once more, why do we need the highrise offices, the hotel, etc. to "bring in businesses" while we have other businesses shutting down left & right? WV can't seem to keep business here in the state, so what's the point? Not to mention the fact that's been stated over and over and that's obvious...it's destroying our beautiful land!

Chutney Daftcraft
07-13-2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah, those uber-colonials make no sense to me, especially when occupied by only 3 or 4 people! No colonial needs to be bigger than mine, really.

Yeah, it's nice to show off with a bigger house, but seriously, ours is literally twice the space we need, and it's a traditional American colonial. I can't figure out why someone would want to heat and cool all that space, considering most haven't seen parts of their homes in weeks...

celestial
07-13-2007, 12:07 PM
“I said we need more time; I’ve completely changed my mind about that,” said Commissioner Rusty Morgan, adding that he has given the rezoning petition a great deal of consideration in recent weeks.

It's clear, to me, that money exchanged hands from last time they met to this time.

It'll pass. Greed is awfully powerful and this board if full of it.

lar
07-13-2007, 12:19 PM
Just what we need 1,600 empty mcmansions .......

Was that a threat by Mr. Jonkers???

Sounds like it. I hope he has a lot of money for carrying costs.

Chutney Daftcraft
07-13-2007, 01:17 PM
EXACTLY!

Let them build it. Let them.

Nothing is moving, and most builders aren't starting anything until they have several contracts in place, because of this.

Sop let them build whatever. They won't come. But bankruptcy will, then his office space can be the JeffCo government center.

What else is there that can actually be done. We *all* know that the table games would have been done-diddly if there was no election. Hell, they'd probably let someone build on John Brown's grave if proper incentive was available, after all, they *did* move the fort...

LazerFlash
07-17-2007, 12:26 PM
It's clear, to me, that money exchanged hands from last time they met to this time.
It'll pass. Greed is awfully powerful and this board if full of it.I don't know... it sounds like Francis Morgan is the swing vote. By my unofficial observation, we have Manuel and Corliss for and Surkamp and R. Morgan opposed. Wish I knew more about her stand on this kind of growth...

LazerFlash
07-17-2007, 12:31 PM
Was that a threat by Mr. Jonkers???It's all in your perspective. He may have been simply pointing out the fact that as the current zoning stands, he is entitled to build 1,600 units in one section of that property. Those taking it as a threat can see it that way. I prefer to believe that he was simply clarifying his position. As he pointed out, so many people see this rezoning request as a simple 'yes' or 'no' proposition, when it's not... not really.