Chick-fil-A Wars: Gay vs Traditional Marriage

[Willis]

Boyoboy, the 'net is rife with opinions and news about

Chick-fil-A's president, Dan Cathy, and his stand against gay marriage in favor of tradition. I won't begin to provide links.
Just google "Chick-fil-A" and click away.

Some snippets you'll find:

Strike another city from Chick-fil-A’s fan club as a Chicago official has pledged to block the fast-food chain from opening in his district amid a heated national debate over the place of the gay marriage debate in corporate America.

Former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee began marshaling supporters to swarm into Chick-fil-A restaurants on Aug. 1. Conservative commentator Michelle Malkin blogged that Menino’s “beef with the beloved chicken sandwich supplier is as full of holes as Chick-fil-A’s trademark waffle fires.”

Supporters of traditional marriage and fans of the much-talked-about (as well as much-sung-about) Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich are ready to head to their nearest Chick-fil-A restaurant to encourage the company's president Dan Cathy, who recently became the target of gay activists after he stated his support for the traditional family in several recent interviews. There's only one problem: Is Chick-fil-A day July 25 or August 1?

Former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum took to social media on Wednesday to announce his support for fast food chain Chick-fil-A in the wake of backlash prompted by its CEO's recent comments against gay marriage.


In a series of tweets, Santorum touted the "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" initiative launched by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) earlier this week. He then raved about the restaurant's food

Gay bloggers slammed the remarks and called for boycotts and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino said the restaurant chain is not welcome in his city. Jim Henson Co., which owns the Muppets, announced that it was ending a long-standing business relationship with Chick-fil-A, where it supplied the Atlanta-based restaurant with toys for its children’s meals.

And on and on-What do you think?

[Steveo]

I am curious when it was not ok to have a different opinion or put your money where your beliefs are?

[kkrapf]

Because their beliefs and money are being used to help oppress a minority.

Heck, a company can put their money towards laws to keep blacks and whites from marrying again, or to take away a woman's right to vote, but that doesn't mean it's right or that we have to like it or that we have to continue shopping there.

[Tony]

I was channel surfing and spotted Cathy on Huckabee's show. He's 91 going on 110 and is plainly old-school and nothing's going to change his mind. I mean, if a boycott were to be so wildly successful that the company had to shut down it wouldn't bother him at all.

[Willis]

He's 91 going on 110 and is plainly old-school and nothing's going to change his mind

You're mixing the founder, S. Truett Cathy (91) with the current president, Dan. I think your assessment of pressure affecting any change in either is correct.

[kkrapf]

In my mind it's not about changing their minds so much as making a societal statement that folks can think and act this way, but that more and more people are NOT okay with it.

[derricksonb]

I will repeat a phrase that I have often used.... I find it ironic that those who preach and demand acceptance of their belief are often the most intolerant of others.

In my mind it's not about changing their minds so much as making a societal statement that folks can think and act this way, but that more and more people are NOT okay with it.

I don't exactly see where the lines at any Chick-Fil-A in the areas where I work or shop have diminished since this latest protest or ban has started so there must still be some level of acceptance of those old school traditional beliefs as well as demand for a superior and delicious fast food product. Personally I hope Chick-Fil-A doesn't back down and stands their ground. We need more companies who are willing to stand up for traditional American values and support the majority.

[kkrapf]

I don't care what others believe, or if they agree with what I believe. I do care when a person thinks that their personal religious belief should inform law, and I will do my part to further social progress. And for me that means not providing money to a company that will use it in a way counter to that progress.

[faithwalk]

i have always liked Chick-fil-a. They have just now become my very favorite. Good for them for standing up for what they believe in. Also love that they close down on Sunday to allow their workers to worship if they so choose. We need more people willing to stand up for what is morally and Biblically right. And please don't try to tell me that the Bible is just old school. I usually try to stay out of the fray on these "heavy Metal" threads, but Chick-fil-a has inspired me to be vocal for what i believe in! now...keep up the discussion, i still love all y'all.

[KatherineA]

Glad to know that you believe that all persons are not created equal.

I have never eaten at Chick-Fil-a - because I try not to eat garbage . . . . this is just one more reason to stay away from a company whose food and business philosophy is radically different from mine.

I really don't see this as being "intolerant" of Chick-Fil - rather, supporting those who do share my beliefs that everyone, including my gay/lesbian family members have the right to marry whom they choose and have all the benefits under the law afforded to me and my spouse.

The only people (IMO) who still believe that the bible demonizes homosexuality are those individuals who have yet to have a gay relative come out to them.

[itsapyr]

I wish those who proclaim to all be for the country would stop to really understand what the leaders hoped to create. I personally hope you all choke on your chick filet's.

Per T Jefferson

"Bear in mind this sacred principle,
that though the will of the majority
is in all cases to prevail,
that will to be rightful must be reasonable;
that the minority possess their equal rights,
which equal law must protect,
and to violate would be oppression."

[Sic semper tyrannis]

You want people to choke their chickens?

[faithwalk]

The only people (IMO) who still believe that the bible demonizes homosexuality are those individuals who have yet to have a gay relative come out to them.

Not so on 2 accounts. The Bible does not "demonize" it. It does however, give us a model of a marriage. Secondly, you jumped to a conclusion about my relatives and friends. i have members of my family who have, as you say, "come out to me". As well as many friends and family who are not on the same page with me in my beliefs. Doesn't mean i don't love them or they me. Let's not jump to conclusions about people who don't necessarily agree with everything you do.

[LFE]

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[JediKnight]

The Bible does not "demonize" it. It does however, give us a model of a marriage

What model would you be referencing, the example of multiple wives, pedophiles marrying children, soldiers taking the wives and daughters of slain enemies, rapist's marrying thier victims, incest or brides who are not virgins being stoned to death. The Bible says alot of things that society chooses to ignore, why would one adhere to certain aspects contained in the book so fervently and dismiss others. If what is contained in the Bible is thought of as the word of God, how is it that questionable aspects can be stricken from peoples frame of reference and morality.

[derricksonb]

Glad to know that you believe that all persons are not created equal.

If that was directed towards me then I would urge to to reconsider as I have never made such a statement or claim. What I have stated is that if any issue is going to go to a vote in each state then I support the majority of individuals and that states right to choose whether or not to support [X issue].

Also, I love the argument made by those in the alleged oppressed class of citizens that the majority are denying them their civil rights and that this is somehow on the same level as Womens Suffrage or The Civil Rights movement. If put up for a public vote, as the Gay Rights Issue was in many states, it's very likely that both of those movements would also have been voted against by the majority of constituents. Keep in mind that the only way those laws both passed were by by acts of the respective congresses of the time.

[KatherineA]

It was not directed at you BD, but at the poster above mine, FW.

I've seen your arguments before BD that this is not a civil rights issue and I completely disagree. I am not going to convince you and will you will not convince me otherwise. But we can bat the ball back and forth for awhile if you want until one of us gets tired of saying the same thing over and over.

I don't see how someone can profess to love a family member but also profess that denying them basic marriage, inheritance, hospital/privacy rights, does not diminish their love and affection.

Like Jedi - I am always amazed at the ability of the DOMA advocates ability to pick and choose which parts of the bible to believe and which parts not to believe.

[LFE]

But we can bat the ball back and forth for awhile if you want until one of us gets tired of saying the same thing over and over.

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[derricksonb]

Like Jedi - I am always amazed at the ability of the DOMA advocates ability to pick and choose which parts of the bible to believe and which parts not to believe.

FWIW I agree with you both on this issue and a major reason why I don't base any of my discussion points on religion or religious beliefs.

[faithwalk]

major reason why I don't base any of my discussion points on religion or religious beliefs

This is why i usually don't respond to these threads. I base everything i do, believe and think on Scripture and i know most people don't understand that. I don't expect you to.